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gregg dourgarian

Hey Jason
I've been asking your question "is there a nursing shortage" everywhere from Minnesota to New York this week and am getting a full range of answers.

Only common denominator is that hospitals and clinics are under extreme budget pressure due to lower census etc so only "cost reduction" messages are working for recruiters.

What does "shortage" mean? In a free economy there is no such thing as a shortage, just supply and demand turbulence. So no surprise that some are stepping up to the challenges.

gregg dourgarian

Jason Lander

Thanks for stopping by Greg!

Yes, it's always an interesting question. And even more interesting is how the question/answer is provided depending on the context, audience and presenter.

Agreed that technically, there is no "shortage" - only supply/demand. But I don't know that we have a "free" economy. Especially these days.

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I think that the problem is with the budget that hospitals have right now, they are putting more efforts in other areas.

J

I am an male RN with a bachelor's degree in Nursing. I've applied to nearly 250 jobs, and been rejected 100% of the time. Every job demands 1 year or more of work experience, why? Because there is a glut of nurses now. Here's my take:

1) Nursing never had a shortage, it simply couldn't meet scheduling demands (i.e. vacancy rates were high) and its hard and not always well respected.
2) The economic crisis drove many partly retired nurses back into nursing. (Anyone that needed an extra few dollars could EASILY pick up extra hours working contingency)

3) every hospital has a different story, but in general they are not willing to hire new grads because on a very localized/managerial level....manager want experienced staff. There is no central plan to draw in new-grads, they've always just gotten experience cuz the demand for ANY nurse was huge. Now, nurses are a dime-a-dozen for staff/unit jobs.

4) Many new-grad nurses struggle and fail to get jobs because hospitals don't want to hire (if possible) and managers/staffing sources have a HUGE number of applicants (UM hospital nurse recruiter once told me each open RN job had an average of more than 120 applicants in the end of 2009).

5) The big losers are the patients, because hospitals can increase workload on existing staff, and the "returning older workforce" probably won't stay in the floor/staff-nursing business for along time. So the next biggest losers are new-graduate nurses that are getting rejected by the droves. Some new grads find jobs, but often times they are already employed in institutions (I know at least 3 different hospital systems that now have a specific "only hire from within" policy that applies to nurses).

If there is a shortage, few people are willing to give new grads their first year of "training work experience". So basically the hospitals are very short-sighted, and the nursing profession is definitely not doing much to help new-grad nurses get jobs (so don't be surprised if a bunch of people with nursing degrees quit nursing because they realize the so-called nursing shortage only applies to specialties and unit-manager jobs that require prior experience.


As a side note, if anybody wants to give advise, I would listen, but PLEASE do not tell new-grads to be more open minded and work midnights.... or consider relocation. The vast majority of the open jobs are midnight shifts, I often don't even get a chance to apply for a day-shift anyway......IF you want to suggest relocation PLEASE specifically demonstrate that you know XYZ place is hiring. I have heard a million people allude to that "some regions" have experienced an easing of the shortage, but they never can tell you "but in XYZ, they will definitely take you". Oh yes, and I've applied to at least 20 local nursing homes and they turned me down as well.

Jason Lander

Thanks J! Getting a nurses perspective on this topic is great.

Susan Rossow

In resonse to J, nurses are not a dime a dozen. The literature contains the statistics on the nursing shortage and the shortage is expected to worsen as the baby boomers retire and more Americans gain access to health care. A main driver of the nursing shortage is the shortage of nurse educators which delays nursing student applicants admission and places the students on 1 to 2 year wait lists. The recession gave nursing a slight feeling of relief as nurses of laid off spouses picked up extra shifts to maintain financial stability for their household and/or nurses delayed retirement for a bit until the economy picked up. However, working in the nurse staffing industry since 2006 I can personally say that hospitals around the country feel the nursing shortage acutely every day and every night~SR

Jason Lander

Totally agree with you Susan. Thanks for the comment!

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